We were thinking, "Jeez, if these were any real serious hoods,
我们在想 "天啊 与其这么费劲用胶带缠住脑袋
why not just kill these people?"
何不直接杀掉他们呢"
Dead men tell no tales.
死人就能彻底闭嘴了
Wait a minute. Go ahead.
等一下 来吧
I think I got there around 8:30, maybe,
我觉得我大概是8点半到那里的
or quarter to 9:00. I can't remember exactly.
或者8点45吧 我记不清了
The FBI was there,
联邦调查局的人在那里
and they wouldn't let me in to any of the galleries,
他们不让我进入任何一个画廊
so I hadxa0no idea what I was going into.
所以我完全不知道我即将卷入什么麻烦
And when I got into the galleries, it was just...
当我走进画廊时 感觉...
... horrifying.
... 很可怕
Did you think you would be...
你觉得你会不会...
How's that? Good.
-怎么样 -很好
No.
不
When I first entered,
我刚走进房♥间时
I saw the golden frames...
我看到了金色的画框...
overlapping one another.
一个摞着一个
And you could see that someone had used a knife.
可以看出来有人用过刀
The paintings weren't unscrewed from the back, they were cut out.
那些画不是从后面取下来的 而是被割下来的
I foundxa0that pretty interesting. Why did they cut them?
我觉得很有趣 为什么要割呢
It wasn't like cutting a piece of paper. As the conservators explained,
管♥理♥员♥跟我说 画作不像纸张一样好割
the paintings are not just one canvas.
这些画不仅仅是一张画布
You can't cut themxa0out and then roll them up like blueprints.
不能把它们割下来之后像卷普通图纸一样把它们卷起来
They said it'd be time-consuming and difficult cutting these things.
他们说把画作割下来既费时又困难
We were starting to hear things, like, "What?
我们开始听到这样的话 "什么
They just cut this stuff out of the frames?
他们从画框上把画作割下来了吗
Oh my gosh."
老天爷啊"
It was, and it still is, completely unbelievable.
我觉得难以置信
It was incomprehensible to me
在我看来 这是无法理解的
that even if you were wanting to steal art that you would treat it that way.
即便想偷走画作 你也不会那样做的
There were 13 works that were taken altogether.
一共13件艺术品被偷走了
In terms of art historical works,
从历史艺术品角度来看
the most important work lost is the Rembrandt seascape,
失窃的最重要的艺术品是伦勃朗的海景画
Storm on the Sea of Galilee.
"加利利海风暴"
It's Rembrandt's onlyxa0seascape,
那是伦勃朗唯一的一幅海景画
and that was brutally cut out of the frame.
被粗鲁地从画框上割了下来
As was the Rembrandt portrait of The Lady and Gentleman in Black.
还有伦勃朗的肖像画"穿黑衣的女士和先生"
That was also cutxa0out of the frame,
也从画框上被割下来了
and that picture had been altered at some time in the past.
那张画作曾被修改过
There was a man and a woman, and a space between them.
男人和女人之间有空隙
When they X-rayed it,
通过X光检查发现
there was a child between the man and the woman.
二人之间曾有一个孩子
Apparently, the child died, and it was too painful,
显然孩子死了 非常令人痛心
and it was painted out by Rembrandt.
这幅画是伦勃朗画的
The Vermeer picture's called The Concert.
维米尔的画作叫做"音乐会"
And you have a woman just about to burst into song.
有一位女人正准备放声歌♥唱
Vermeer's paintings, there aren't that many.
维米尔的传世作品不多
Some say 33, some say 35.
有人说33幅 有人说35幅
For me, that Vermeer was
对我来说 维米尔的作品失窃
the toughest one to realize, "Boy, that thing is gone."
是我最难接受的 "天啊 那幅画丢了"
As a guard,
作为一名保安
that was one of my favoritexa0pieces to just study.
那是我最喜欢研究的作品之一
You couldxa0just be there and you could just almost like talk to it.
你可以身临其境 几乎可以跟它对话
And then, of course, there was the Flinck,
当然还有弗林克的作品
Obelisk in the Landscape.
"方尖碑景观"
The Chinese beaker.
中国彩樽
That actually was the oldest work taken.
那是被盗的最古老的藏品
Those were the works that were in the Dutch Room,
那些都是陈列在荷兰厅里的藏品
along with an etching of Rembrandt.
还有一幅伦勃朗的版画
The Rembrandt self-portrait was also off the wall.
伦勃朗的自画像也从墙上被拿下来了
And I thought, "Oh my God, that too?"
我心想 "我的天啊 那幅画也失窃了吗"
And I pulled the framexa0out and the picture was still there.
我把画框拉出来 画作还在
Then, from the Short Gallery,
然后在短厅
there were five works on paper.
有五幅纸本画作
Degas depicting jockeys riding horses,
德加画的骑师骑马
beautifully drawn and executed.
绘画和制♥作♥都很精美
And then, in that same gallery,
然后在同一间画廊
the Napoleonic finial
拿破仑旗帜上面的
from the Napoleonic flag.
拿破仑旗帜顶饰
They kinda theorized that that's where probably they were out of time.
他们推测 就在那时候他们的时间不够了
Where they tried to unscrew the finial.
他们试图把顶饰拧下来
The, uh, screws were in the cigarette receptacle.
螺丝就在烟缸里
They hadn't gotten through taking all the screws out,
他们没有把所有的螺丝都拧下来
so they figured it was time to go,
他们觉得该走了
that these particular items
至于这几件藏品
may have just been an afterthought.
可能他们只是突发奇想要拿走的
And then finally, from the first floor, the Blue Room,
最后在一楼的蓝厅
a Manet called Chez Tortoni.
是马奈的作品"托尔托尼"
There are significant paintings missing.
这次丢失的画作价值连城
Ballpark figure on the cost is about $200 million.
总值大约两亿美元
The FBI didn't have an art squad. Nobody did.
联邦调查局没有艺术品小组 哪里都没有
It was just devastating.
真是打击太大了
Uh, in terms of the rooms...
在展厅方面...
So, they were struggling to get up to speed on it.
所以他们在努力加快速度
And, of course, we were shattered.
当然 我们也都崩溃了
It was like a death in the family.
就像家里有人去世了一样
That's precisely why people...
所以人们才...
I was just totally numb.
我都呆住了
We were told by the FBI
联邦调查局告诉我们说
we needed to get a reward going before the trail getsxa0cold.
我们要趁热打铁 悬赏奖励提供线索
That was considered to be the most important move we could make.
那是我们能采取的最重要的行动
So, I called someone I knew who was in the Philippines at the time.
所以我联♥系♥了一个我认识的人 他当时在菲律宾
He was also the chairman of Sotheby's.
他也是苏富比拍卖♥♥行的主席
"What do you want from me?" he said.
他说 "你想让我做什么"
And I told him we needed a million dollars.
我告诉他 我们需要一百万美元
Sotheby's and Christies stepped in,
苏富比和佳士得介入
offering this million-dollar reward.
提供了100万美元的悬赏
We were just overcome with calls coming in.
我们接到了很多电♥话♥
The phone system broke down.
电♥话♥系统都崩溃了
A group of us were just really around the clock
我们有一群人夜以继日
working to get the reward out.
努力争取把悬赏宣传出去
I operate under the assumption that we are going to return...
我必须假定 我们能够寻回...
Get thesexa0returned, because we are a world-class museum.
能够找回这些藏品 因为我们是世界级的博物馆
The press was brutal for a while.
媒体则是口诛笔伐
Just brutal.
毫不留情
How long have you been director?
你当馆长多久了
For six months.
六个月
Guards, how old were they? I don't know.
-那些保安的年纪多大 -我不知道
How long have they worked for you? Do you know? I don't know.
-他们工作多久了 -你知道吗 我不知道
What happened?
他们怎么样了
Would you say that the guards screwed up in this thing?
你觉得是保安的责任吗
Or were they taken advantage of?
还是说他们被利用了
The FBI's handling all of that. We will...
联邦调查局在处理这些事情 我们会...
I don't have more to say now,
现在我无可奉告
but we will continually update you if there is any new information.
如果有新的消息 我们会继续向大家通报
I was there that morning.
那天早上我也在那里
And I think Ixa0was maybe the first FBI agent on the scene.
我觉得我可能是第一个到达现场的联邦调查局探员
Boston PD was already there.
波士顿警♥察♥局的人已经在那里了
This was designated as a major theft, and I had responsibility
这是一起重大盗窃案
for the violent crimes program, which included
而我负责暴♥力♥犯罪调查
kidnappings, bank robberies, fugitives, that type of thing.
主要包括绑♥架♥ 银行抢劫 逃犯之类的事情
As I recall, they showed me the security area...
我记得 他们给我看了保安区...
that had been breached.
那里已经被破坏了
These guys obviously had some idea of what they were doing.
这些人显然知道自己在做什么
I had to sit down with the supervisor of the squad
我只得跟警♥察♥分队队长一起坐下来
that would handle violent crimexa0like this.
他们负责处理这样的暴♥力♥犯罪
We tried to figure out,
我们试图弄清楚
"What do we do? Who do we look at?
"我们要怎么办 窃贼是怎样的人
Where could these things have gone?"
那些藏品可能去哪里了"
I only saw the guards briefly upstairs.
我只在楼上匆匆地见了保安一面