So the Rembrandt was not used for any monetary value.
所以 这幅伦勃朗不是被用来发挥任何金钱方面的价值
He got two four-year sentences combined into one four-year sentence.
他的两个四年的刑期被合并成了一个四年的刑期
Out of that comes this myth within the bad-guy world,
从那以后 一个神话就在江湖上传开了
that having a stolen painting, a masterpiece,
如果有一张偷来的名画
is a get-out-of-jail-free card.
就可以脱罪出狱
"The Feds will deal with you. They'll let you out of jail.
"联邦调查局会和你做交易 他们会放你出狱
Look what they did toxa0Myles."
看看他们对迈尔斯是怎么做的"
Anybody who was a thief,
任何一个窃贼
an art thief, knew about the Gardner.
一个艺术品窃贼 都知道加德纳
You had to.
你必须知道
I've talked with guys and said, "I've scoped that place out."
我就听人对我说过 "我对那个博物馆踩过点"
I'm not gonna tell you who, but I've scoped that place out.
我不会告诉你是谁 但他们已经踩过点了
It was an easy, easy score, as they say on the street.
按照他们的说法 非常容易得手
We now know that a lot of local wise guys
现在我们知道 当时有很多聪明人
were scoping out the museum.
都在打这家博物馆的主意
They werexa0casing it.
都在踩点
But at that time, the focus was on all these other events.
但当时 人们的注意力在其他事件上
Put it this way, back in 1990,
这么说吧 在1990年
if you're an FBI agent,
如果你是联邦调查局探员
the way you get a promotion, the way you get a raise,
你要想升职 要想加薪
do a big Mafia case.
那你就办个大的黑♥手♥党♥案子
The culture hadn't changed.
那种文化还没有改变
That was how you got your name in the paper,
那仍然是你和你的团队
how you got your people on the news.
出名上新闻的途径
Solving an art theft
在1990年
versus a Mafia prosecution in 1990,
破获一起艺术品窃案 和打掉一个黑♥手♥党♥相比
what do you think is gonna get more attention?
你觉得哪个更吸引眼球
There was a theft here last night. Two Rembrandts and a Vermeer.
这里昨晚发生了窃案 两幅伦勃朗 一幅维米尔
Is that why it's closed? Yes, that's why.
-所以关门了 -对 是这样的
The gates at the Gardner Museum will stay locked
伊莎贝拉·斯图尔特·加德纳博物馆大门紧闭
while authorities searchxa0for clues in the daring weekend heist.
警方仍在寻找有关周末那场明目张胆的窃案的线索
When the FBI gets in, they kinda shut stuff down.
联邦调查局进来之后 他们关停了一切活动
They assert complete dominance or control of an investigation.
他们完全主导和控制了案件调查工作
Not only not telling usxa0what's going on,
不仅不告诉我们他们在干什么 也不告诉州警方
they're not telling the locals, not the Staties.
就像绑♥架♥案一样
Much like a kidnapping case, we wanted to be in itxa0from the outset.
我们希望从一开始就介入
When you're at the FBI academy,
在联邦调查局警♥察♥学院
you learnxa0about collecting evidence. It's somewhat rudimentary.
你会学习如何收集证据一些比较基础的技能
Dusting forxa0fingerprints, doing tire impressions,
提取指纹 提取轮胎印
those type of things.
这类技能
We had low-level training back then.
当时我们接受的是低级别训练
If the Gardner was robbed today, it would be different.
如果今天加德纳博物馆被窃 那就不一样了
There were a lot of things that weren't taken
当时有很多线索没有被提取
that we would have taken today.
如果是今天一定会提取的
In 1990, that wasn't part of the protocol.
1990年的办案规程没有那些要求
And I remember going into the conservator's room.
我记得我走进保管员办公室
That particular door was ajar. So I dunno who opened that.
那扇门开了一点 我不知道是谁开的
I didn't know ifxa0the police opened it.
我不知道是不是警♥察♥开的
Did the robbers open that door? I'm not sure.
还是窃贼开的 我不确定
That's another thing with crime scenes now.
这也是今天的现场勘查特别注意的地方
We know everybody that entered the crime scene,
每个人进入犯罪现场 我们都知道
where they came from, when they left.
他们从哪里来 什么时间离开的
There's a person at the door that does all of that.
门口有个人专门负责记录
Back then, yeah, there wasn't.
当时并没有
We figured if we had any luck at all
我们想 如果我们运气好
of obtaining any type of fingerprint, ridge detail,
能提取到指纹 详细的纹路信息
it would've beenxa0off the duct tape.
那么很可能是在胶带上
The way we had the tape at the time, it was removed by BPD.
我们拿到胶带时 波士顿警方已经把胶带解开了
It was all balled up.
团成了一团
That tape then would've been taken in.
这些胶带本来会被带走
Liquid nitrogen would be applied to it. It would release the bonding properties.
会用液态氮去除上面的粘性物质
You'd be able to stretch the duct tape out so that it's straight.
你就可以把胶带拉直
So we were hoping to do that, but then the tape went missing.
我们本来希望那么做 但后来那些胶带不见了
It's gone. It's vanished. They don't have it. They can't test it.
没了 消失了 他们没有胶带 无法检测
To the best of my knowledge,
据我所知
the tape was never examined for fingerprints.
他们从来没有检查过胶带上是否有指纹
Back then you'd sign it out.
当时 你会签字取走物证
I'd say, "I'm giving this to the State Police to test."
说"我把它送到州警♥察♥局去检查"
And off it wouldxa0go.
然后才能拿走
So I don't think there was any of that exchange of paper and whatnot.
可是当时并没有这些手续
It went missing. I think to this day,
弄丢了 我今天仍然认为
they probably don't have any idea where it's at.
他们可能根本不知道胶带哪儿去了
You know, to this day, that sticks in my craw.
我至今耿耿于怀
Because of all the things we probably would have found from that.
本来可能能够发现很多线索的
They weren't thinking about DNA in 1990,
1990年 他们不会想到DNA
but you would think that evidence would be preserved.
但你以为他们会保留相关物证
They've said, "Chances of findingxa0anything on duct tape from 29 years ago,
他们说"29年过去了 还能从胶带上
what are the chances?"
发现什么线索"
You don't know you don't have it, if you don't look.
胶带没了 不可能去检查 所以你永远不会知道
There's never been forensic evidence,
根本没有任何法证学证据
DNA, fingerprints, hair, anything like that
DNA 指纹 头发 任何能够帮助断定
that says, "These are the thieves."
窃贼身份的东西
I rememberxa0I was sitting in the kitchen, I'm reading the Boston Globe,
我记得我坐在厨房♥里看"波士顿环球报"
and seeing something about the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum.
我看到关于伊莎贝拉斯图尔特·加德纳博物馆的新闻
Reading what happened,
得知当时的情况
that it was two men dressed as police officers
两个装扮成警♥察♥的人
that robbed the museum,
偷了博物馆藏品
it was just like the coin drop.
真是不可思议
Like, "Oh my God!"
我的天呐
For uniformed policemen to be in
穿制♥服♥的警♥察♥开着一辆
what I recalled as a Dodge Daytona, this little hatchback.
我记得是道奇迪通拿掀背车
That seems odd.
这挺奇怪的
When we went to make a statement to the police in Dudley Square,
我们去达德利广场为警方做笔录时
I pointed out the patch
我指着他们的警徽
that was on axa0uniform jacket hanging in the room.
当时房♥间里挂着一件警服 上面有他们的徽标
Said, "It was just like that. It was exactly that."
我说"就像那样的 完全一样"
Then he took it away,
他把衣服收起来了
'cause he didn't want me to presumably have my memory be informed
可能是因为不希望做笔录时 我在房♥间里看到的任何东西
by the things in the room while taking a statement.
影响我的记忆
It looks like these are the notes that detectives would have taken
这些看起来像是我们在警♥察♥局
when we were interviewed at the police station.
接受询问时 探员做的笔记
Interesting.
有意思
I didn't recall giving such an explicit description of the person.
我不记得我曾如此详细地描述我看到的那个人
White male, dark hair.
白人男性 深色头发
Black hair, a mustache.
黑头发 有唇髭
Medium to dark complexion.
肤色中等偏深
Early 30s, wide eyes,
30岁出头 大眼睛
hair below the ears.
头发盖着耳朵
Average height or a little taller.
中等身高或偏高
And I also remember seeing the sketches. And I thought,
我也记得看到那些画像 我想
"Neither of these look like the guys that I got a really good look at."
"这些人不像我看到的那几个人 我看得很清楚"
To my knowledge, the folks I spoke with at the station
据我所知 在警♥察♥局和我谈话的那几个人
were members of the Boston police force.
是波士顿警♥察♥
I have noxa0recollection of ever talking to the FBI.
我不记得和联邦调查局的人说过话
None of the FBI folks reached out to me later on.
后来他们的人也没有联♥系♥过我
If it was the Boston Police, was that information shared with the FBI?
如果这是波士顿警方 那么这些信息和联邦调查局共享了吗
I don'txa0know.
我不知道
But someone who was responsible for the investigation
但负责调查的人
never followed through and contacted me again,
从没有深究 从没有再和我联♥系♥过
and I was an eyexa0witness.
我可是目击者啊
There were 45 agents working the case right at the outset.
从一开始就有45名调查员调查此案
Well, that ended soon after, within a month,
这种情况不到一个月就结束了
and those agents went on to other things.
那些人又去办别的案子了
It then evolved down to one agent,
渐渐地只剩下一个人了
who was 26 years old.
这个人26岁
Is that how old the FBI agent was? He wasxa026?
那个联邦调查局探员那么年轻 26岁
That tells youxa0something right there.
这就很说明问题
You would think, if this was the movies, they'd make a call.
如果这是在电影里 他们一定会拿起电♥话♥
"Hello, Mr. Desmond."
"喂 戴斯蒙德先生"
Some guy picks up the phone on a beach somewhere.
有个人在海滩上接起电♥话♥