马克思·里希特睡梦音乐会（2019）

如果你去演奏
If you play a gig,
你就身在音乐其中
you're projecting this material really strongly,
你想讲一个关于...
you're trying to tell a story...
..."睡梦"音乐会的故事
...whereas in the case of a "Sleep" performance,
动态效果完全不同
the dynamics are completely different.
那些睡觉的人就是故事本身
Those people sleeping are the story.
晚上10:28 入睡 入梦
10:28. To sleep, perchance to dream.
阴沉的生活噪音
Sombre. Life noises.
刺耳的警报声 办手续吵闹的人们
The wild sirens, chattering of people checking in
随着音乐融化掉
melts with the music,
产生了就像电影中
creates a tone like in the movies
伴随着重要剧情的旋律
after something serious has happened.
我听说这个音乐会
I heard about the concert
我当时想 "我的妻子一定不想去
and I was like, "I don't think my wife would want to go.
听起来太奇怪了" 然后我告诉了她
It sounds too weird." Then I told her about it.
她说 "睡眠和音乐 为什么不喜欢"
She's like, "It's sleep and it's music? What's not to like?"
我很惊讶她等了很久
I was surprised she waited as long as she did
最后能说些什么
to say something about it.
我想她已经知道了一段时间了
I guess she had known about it for a while.
看到她睡着了 我真的很高兴
I was really happy to see her asleep.
是的 我有点担心
Yeah, I was a little worried
那是因为我们在露天
that because we were out in the open
在所有这些陌生人中...
among all these strangers that...
还有虫子 -还有虫子
And the bugs. - And the bugs.
...她会不高兴
...she was gonna end up being not happy,
但显然她自己就感觉
but apparently, her body was like,
"不 我现在可以睡觉了"
"No, I can go to sleep now."
我睡着了
Like, I zonked out,
在音乐会开始15或20分钟后 我就睡了
like, pretty much 15, 20 minutes into the concert, I was out.
一整夜都很稳
Legit, like, all night.
是的 -令人惊讶
Yeah. - Which is surprising.
作为女人 我们俩的关系
Being a woman in our relationship,
我们会保持警惕
you are kind of on guard, always watching your back,
我不知道谁在看着我 他们在想什么
you don't know who's looking at you, what they're thinking,
他们怎么想我们 我们会否让他们不舒服
what they're thinking of you and how you're making them feel.
我觉得自己一直不安全
I feel like I always... always feel, like, unsafe.
我们显然有一些共同点
You obviously have something in common
因为我们都一起参加了这次活动
'cause you've all come together around this event.
真的很棒 你见到了人们
It's just fascinating. You see people.
就想 "我想知道我们会一起出去吗
You're like, "I wonder would we be hanging out together?
如果我们搭讪
Would we be buddies if I went over
我们会在一起聊天吗"
and struck up a conversation with you right now?"
是的 你确实感到安全有保障
Like, yeah, you did feel kind of safe and protected.
第一次令人难忘
The first one was memorable
因为那太可怕了
in that it was just so terrifying
因为我们只是不知道该怎么去完成
because we just did not know how to play this piece.
如何排练这么庞大的作品
How do you rehearse something that size?
画廊里都是这些有趣的古玩
The gallery is full of these amazing curios
19世纪的科学
of 19th century science.
这似乎是一个合适的地方
It seemed in a way an appropriate place to do it
因为"睡梦"有它的起源
because "Sleep" has some of its origins
就是睡眠科学
in, I guess, sleep science.
我们整夜排练 然后第二天
We rehearsed it overnight and then we had the next day,
我去修改发现的错误
and I was up fixing the parts, all the mistakes I discovered,
还有技术问题
all the technical stuff.
背景音乐：Return 2 (song)
/ nor earth, nor boundless sea
然后我们在Radio 3电台现场直播了一夜
And then we played overnight live on Radio 3.
我们整夜直播
They broadcast it all night long,
所以有点像是洗礼
so it was kind of a baptism of fire.
我很幸运被邀请
I was very lucky to be invited
来到维康基金会电台
to be one of the people to fall to sleep
成为要入睡的人之一
to his music at the Wellcome Foundation.
我认为它打破了
I think it broke a world record
电台广播最长的音乐的世界纪录
for the longest continuous piece on the radio.
刚开始 很明显
Once the piece kicked off it was clear
马克斯弹的钢琴
that there was something wrong with the piano
出了些问题
that Max was playing at,
发出了一些非常细微的杂音
that there was some really tinny sound coming out of that.
然后一名工作人员过去
And then one of the crew crept up,
到钢琴那里
climbed on top of this grand piano
并开始检查问题
and started trying to investigate what...
但是音乐必须继续下去
But the piece had to keep on going.
那是现场直播
This was a live broadcast
整部作品要持续八个小时
of this piece that was gonna go on for eight hours
而且我们无法停止之后重新开始
and there was no way we were stopping and starting again.
我们解决了问题 音乐似乎产生了
We got through it and it had a real kind of energy,
一种周围真正的引力
it had a real sort of gravitational force around it.
能够吸引人们
It just seemed to kind of affect people,
很令人兴奋
so that was exciting.
我接受过的音乐教育
My work comes out of the polarity
包括极简的 古典的
between a very straightforward, classical,
学院派和大学派融合在一起的作曲教育
conservatoire, university, composer education.
我对电子音乐和
And my enthusiasm for electronic music,
氛围音乐的热情来说 工作室就是乐器
ambient music, the studio as instrument.
新音乐像文艺复兴一样
It has its roots in the kind of Renaissance
音乐有几何化构造
where music was structured very geometrically.
这也是对我之前接受教育的
It's also a rejection of super-complicated modernism
复杂的现代主义的反抗
which I was schooled in,
但是我觉得它失去了
but which I felt had really lost its connection
和广泛受众的联♥系♥
with a broader audience.
我想建立一种
I felt like I wanted to build a language
非常直接的语言
which had a kind of directness.
我和马克斯第一次见面时
When Max and I first met,
我在讲数学和对称性
I was giving a talk about maths and symmetry.
我认为他们之间有直接联♥系♥
I think there was an immediate connection.
在数学和音乐之间
There's always been an immediate connection
一直都有联♥系♥
between maths and music.
每个音乐作品
Like every piece,
都是一系列的"假设"问题
it's a big series of "what if" questions.
我想如果我要睡觉
I started thinking about what kind of music
我会要什么样的音乐
would I want if I was sleeping?
我想感觉到
And I started thinking I would like to feel
如果我半夜醒来 我想知道我身处何处
that if I wake up in the middle, I want to know where I am.
数学实际上是模式的科学
Mathematics is actually the science of patterns
而音乐是模式的艺术
and music is the art of patterns.
这就是联♥系♥
And that's the connection.
我们可以采用斐波那契数之类的简单方法
So you take something simple like the Fibonacci numbers.
就像这样
So these are numbers which go:
1 1 2 3
1, 1, 2, 3,
5 8 13
5, 8, 13.
将前两个数字加在一起
You get the next number
得到下一个数字
by adding the two previous numbers together.
这些增长都很自然 自然界中就有很多
These have a natural growth which is what nature uses a lot,
比如一朵花上的花瓣数
so the number of petals on a flower
就是斐波那契数
is invariably a Fibonacci number,
贝壳生长或松果或菠萝...
the way that shells grow or pine cones or pineapples...
你会在所有地方看到这些数字
You'll see these numbers all over the place.
但是这些也是作曲家喜欢使用的数字
But these are also numbers that composers love using,
所以你会看到德彪西或者巴托克使用它们
so you see Debussy, Bartok very deliberately using them
让音乐有上升感
to give a sense of growth in their pieces.
连接艺术世界和数学科学世界
One of the things that connects the world of art
的纽带之一
and the world of mathematics and science as well
就是我们对周围的
is that all of these are actually our response
自然世界的反应
to the natural world around us.
他们是帮助我们在混乱中
They're our language trying to help us navigate our way
找准方向前进的一种语言
through the kind of chaos that we live in.
我写音乐的时候我会感到不安
I felt like slightly in freefall when I was writing it.
我会想 "不知道这到底行不行"
I was like, "I don't really know if this is gonna work."
作曲时 我写的音符
When you're composing, the notes you're writing,
它们和已经发生的事情
you're very much writing them in relation to everything