是，首相（1986）

Well, why don't you get the bishop to send him to Kumran,
去为那个护士说情呢?
to try to intercede on behalf of that nurse?
阿♥拉♥伯人喜欢他 他是伊♥斯♥兰♥教专家
The Arabs love him because he's an expert in Islamic studies
他也喜欢阿♥拉♥伯人 横竖我们不吃亏
He'd love the Arabs. Either way, we can't lose.
对呀
That's right.
如果他失败 他尽力了
If he fails, at least he's tried.
如果他成功 他就是英雄
If he succeeds, he's a hero.
如果他回不来 也没人想念他
And if he doesn't come back, he won't be missed.
多可怕的国家啊
No, it's such an awful country.
偷东西要砍手
They cut people's hands off and
女人一通奸 就要被砸死
women get stoned when they commit adultery.
不像英国
Unlike Britain where
她们喝到醉死 然后去通奸
they commit adultery when they get stoned
他可能丢几个零件再回来呢
He may even come back with a few parts missing!
瞧 手没了
Look, no hands!
抱歉犹豫这么久 彼得
Sorry to be so hesitant, Peter.
我从没委任过主教
I've never appointed a bishop before.
是向女王推荐委任 首相
recommended the appointment to the sovereign, PM
对 给我讲讲史丹弗教士
Yes. Tell me about Canon Stanford.
好的 麦克名望很高 他是个现代派
Well, Mike is very highly thought of. He's a modernist.
现代派? 神学术语 首相
Modernist? A theological term. Prime Minister
他似乎认为
It seems that he accepts that
圣经里某些事不能照字面理解
some events described in the Bible are not literally true.
他认为那些是比喻 神话或传奇故事
He sees them as metaphors, myths or legends.
他只关注它们的精神或哲学涵义
He's interested in their spiritual and philosophical truth.
你是说他不信七日创世
He doesn't believe the world was made in seven days
夏娃是亚当肋骨这一套?
and Eve came out of Adam's rib?
正是 首相 貌似挺明智的 还有呢?
Precisely. Sounds very sensible. Anything else?
他上过温彻斯特和牛津新学院
He went to Winchester and New College, Oxford,
他是首选
and his name is first on the list.
好像不错 他夫人也极其合适
Sounds good. And he has an eminently suitable wife.
你是说她虔诚 广做善事?
Devout, full of good works?
不 我是说她是奇切斯特伯爵的女儿
No, I mean she's the daughter of the Earl of Chichester.
明白了 第二位呢?
I see. And what about the second?
第二位是保罗哈维博士
Well, second is Doctor Paul Harvey.
怎样?
And?
他是个可敬的人 然而?
He's an admirable man. But?
当然 您来拿主意 首相
It's your choice, of course, Prime Minister
可人们怀疑
but there's a suspicion
他倾向于政教分离主义
he tends towards disestablishmentarianism.
什么?
What?
认为圣公会
The view that the Church of England
不该成为国家政♥权♥的一部分
shouldn't be part of the state.
有些人觉得该把它们分离出去
Some people feel it should be separate,
像卫理公会和天主教会一样
like Methodists or Catholics.
他们说老百姓觉得国教只是
They think ordinary people feel the established church is
统治阶级的俱乐部,而不是信仰
a club for the ruling classes. Not a faith
听起来人不错啊
Sounds a good man.
当然 完全由您做主 首相
Well, it's entirely up to you, of course, Prime Minister,
不过我怀疑女王陛下会有点意外
but I suspect Her Majesty might be a little surprised
如果您要她任命
if you asked her to appoint a man who'd
一个让她打破加冕时"捍卫国教"誓言的人
make her break her coronation vows to defend the Church
那干吗把他列进来?
Why's he on the list, then?
他也不完全是政教分离派
Well, he's not quite a disestablishmentarian yet.
可他的思想似乎有这个趋向
But that's the way his mind seems to be moving.
明白了
I see.
所以我得选麦克史丹弗或麦克史丹弗?
So I'm being asked to choose Mike Stanford or Mike Stanford?
首相 委员会已经
Prime Minister, The Commission is offering you
提名了两个候选人
the two names which emerged
自♥由♥选举出来的?
Was there an open election?
不可能 主教遵从使徒递袭
No. Bishops are in the apostolic succession.
什么意思? 上帝的旨意
What's that? It's God's will.
当初犹大堕落之后 就要换人
When Judas Iscariot blotted his copybook, he was replaced.
他们让圣灵决定
They let the Holy Ghost decide.
圣灵怎么传达旨意? 抓阄
How did he make his views known? By drawing lots.
这次不能让圣灵决定吗?
Couldn't we let the Holy Ghost decide this time?
没人相信圣灵知道
No one's confident the Holy Ghost would know
英国圣公会主教的条件
what makes a good Church of England bishop.
汉弗莱爵士快到了 首相 能明天再谈吗?
Sir Humphrey is due here now. Could we continue tomorrow?
没问题 谢谢 首相
Not at all. Thank you, Prime Minister.
首相 任命史丹弗
Prime Minister, appointing Canon Stanford
可能会自摆乌龙
may be an own goal
我去调他的履历好吗?
May I get his career details?
好 谢谢 我叫汉弗莱爵士进来
Yes, please do. And I'll send Sir Humphrey in.
伯纳 首相 汉弗莱 要雪利酒吗?
Bernard. Prime Minister. Ah, Humphrey. Sherry?
好的 谢谢
Yes, thank you.
汉弗莱 圣公会的现代派是什么意思?
What's a modernist in the Church of England?
这个嘛 "现代派"指不信教的人
Ah, well, the word ''modernist'' is code for non-believer.
你说无神论者? 不不 首相
You mean an atheist? No, no.Prime Minister
无神论者拿不到教会津贴
An atheist couldn't continue to draw his stipend,
所以当他们不信上帝了
so when they stop believing in God
就自称现代派
they call themselves modernists.
圣公会怎能
How could the Church of England
推荐无神论者当主教?
suggest an atheist as bishop
很简单
They are easy.
圣公会主要是个社会团体
The Church of England is primarily a social organisation,
不是宗教团体
not religious.
是吗? 对 我国多样社会结构的一部分
Is it? Part of the rich social fabric of the country.
主教要谈吐得体 礼数周全
Bishops need to be the sort of chaps who speak properly,
懂得选用刀叉
know which knife and fork to use.
让人心生敬畏的人物
The sort of people one can look up to.
所以史丹弗教士的夫人特别合适
So Canon Stanford's wife's eminently suitable
当然 干杯
Of course. Cheers.
真没别的候选人了? 不能说有
Is there really no other candidate? Well, not really.
近来有更好的职位出缺了
There were better jobs available recently.
什么比主教(象棋里的相)还好? 赌棍(车)
What's better than a bishop? A rook?
很好笑
Very droll.
不 温莎教长就是更好的职位
No, Dean of Windsor is a better job.
西敏寺教长也是
Or Westminster.
能使人和皇室亲密起来
It enables one to be on better terms with the Royals.
这么说主教就是个名份喽?
So being a bishop is just a matter of status?
能穿长袍 长统靴
Dressing up in cassocks and gaiters.
对 尽管长统靴只有
Yes, though gaiters are now only worn
在重大宗教场合才穿
at significant religious events
比如皇室游园会
like the Royal garden party.
为什么? 教会想尽量拉近联♥系♥
Why? The Church is trying to be more relevant.
跟上帝? 不 当然不是 首相
To God? No, of course not. PM.
社会学上的联♥系♥
I meant relevant in sociological terms.
那在教会看来
So the ideal candidate in the Church's view
最理想的莫过于一位社♥会♥主♥义♥社交名流?
is a cross between a socialite and a socialist?
正是
Precisely.
抱歉打扰一下
May I just interrupt.
您要听史丹弗教长的履历吗?
May I give you career details of Dean Conan Stanford?
请说吧
Please do.
神学院毕业后 任设菲尔德助理牧师
He was chaplain to the Bishop of Sheffield.
提拔为教区
He moved on to be the diocesan advisor
异教♥徒♥团体与社区顾问
on ethnic communities and social responsibility.
组织过各种不同信仰交流会
He organised conferences on inter-faith interface
基♥督♥徒和马♥克♥思♥主义者
and inter-faith between Christians and Marxists,and
基♥督♥徒和格林汉芒左派反战妇女营
between Christians and the women of Greenham Common
他曾任埃塞克斯大学牧师
He was chaplain at the University of Essex,
神学院副院长
vice-principal at a theological college
现任教会理事会
and is now secretary to the Disarmament Committee
裁军♥委♥员会干事
of the Council of Churches.
他当过普通教区牧师吗?
Has he ever been an ordinary vicar of a parish?
天啊 没有 首相
Good heavens, no. PM.
想当主教的神职人员
Clergymen who want to be bishops
总要回避教区工作
try to avoid pastoral work.
你是说 他是个政坛刺头?
So you're saying he's a political troublemaker?
不 不过他可能阻碍您处理社会问题
No, but he could be a thorn in your side on social issues
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