But you can have the best anti-poaching team in the world
但只要有需求存在
but there'll always be that threat from poaching,
偷猎行为就会屡禁不止
so long as that demand is there.
中国政♥府♥
'The Chinese authorities
针对象牙制品交易的措施十分严厉
take a hard line against the ivory trade,
但象牙制品交易在远东地区仍十分活跃
'but ivory goods remain popular in the Far East.
中国还对其他野生动物制品有需求
'Chinese demand for other wildlife products, including rhino horn
包括犀角和虎制品 危及其他物种的生存
'and tiger parts, threaten other species around the world.
斯波特·比提无法阻止需求
'Unable to stem the demand, Sport Beattie
便与赞比亚野生动物保护局合作
is working with the Zambian Wildlife Authority
同当地居民携手保护大象
'to involve local communities in the protection of the elephants
从源头上阻止偷猎行为
to stop the poaching at source.'
事实上 尽管赞比亚政♥府♥
The fact that these elephants are here
已经付出了最大的努力
shows there is still a threat,
这里的大象仍然濒临险境
despite the best efforts of the Zambian authorities, from poachers,
衷心希望这些动物被放归自然之后
let's just hope that when these animals are released back into wild
能够生存下来
they manage to survive.
美丽的家伙 难以置信
Beautiful things, really incredible.
你好
Hello!
卡富埃国家公园以北是另一个国家
'To the south of Kafue National Park lies a country
中国人的出现给那里带来很大争议
'where the Chinese presence has been highly controversial.
跨过赞比兹河 就到了津巴布韦
'Across the Zambezi river is Zimbabwe.
罗伯特·穆加比统治这个国家长达三十年
'The country has been ruled for 30 years by Robert Mugabe.
由于其糟糕的人♥权♥记录
'Western governments have imposed sanctions
西方各国对其发起了制裁
because of the regime's terrible record on human rights.
在国际舞台上
China has been a supporter of
中国一直支持这个颇受非议的领导人
Zimbabwe's embattled president on the international stage.
我们离津巴布韦已经不能再近了
This is as close to Zimbabwe as we can get.
我们希望能亲身感受一下
We'd hoped to see for ourselves
中国在这个国家的所作所为
what China is doing in the country,
但津巴布韦政♥府♥并不欢迎我们
but the Zimbabwean Government told us we're not welcome.
中国政♥府♥反对制裁
'The Chinese Government opposes sanctions
强调其外交政策
'and says it has a policy of not interfering
不干涉非洲国家内政
in the internal affairs of African nations.
这导致了
'This has caused conflict
穆加比和西方国家之间的矛盾
with Western governments opposed to Mugabe.
数以千计穆加比的反对者
'Thousands of President Mugabe's opponents
遭到血腥镇♥压♥和政♥治♥迫♥害♥
have suffered political repression, beatings and killings.
我见到两个为了活命逃出津巴布韦的人
'I met two men who fled Zimbabwe, fearing for their lives.
他们同意接受采访
'They agreed to speak,
但不愿意透露身份
so long as their identities were protected.'
你们觉得像中国这样的国家
How important do you think the support
对穆加比政♥权♥的支持有什么重要意义
of countries like China for the Mugabe regime has been?
中国政♥府♥一直为穆加比开脱责任
使穆加比更加有恃无恐地践踏人♥权♥
中国人说 这事我们管不着
The Chinese say, "Listen, you know, it's not for us to judge
不同的国家有他们自己处理内政的方式
"The way other countries run their own internal affairs.
我们干嘛要插手呢
"Why should we get involved?"
如果中国政♥府♥真正在乎
津巴布韦人♥民♥的权利
使这里所有人享有
平等人♥权♥ 言论自♥由♥
话语自♥由♥ 出版自♥由♥
情况会有所不同
带着不光彩的历史
'With its own distinctly dubious record,
中国政♥府♥不太可能
'the Chinese Government is hardly likely
为非洲人♥民♥的权利而斗争
to fight for human rights in Africa.
而中国政♥府♥的非洲盟友中
'And some of the continent's worst rulers
更是包括非洲最差劲的统治者
have found in China a convenient political ally.
而西方各国政♥府♥在符合自身利益时
'But Western governments also do business
也会同这些专♥制♥的政♥权♥做交易
with despotic regimes when it suits their interests.
赞比亚是一个和平民♥主♥的国家
'Zambia is a peaceful, democratic country.
首都是卢萨卡
'Lusaka is its capital.
同安哥拉一样 中国居民
'Just as in Angola, the Chinese community
在赞比亚也是与日俱增
has been growing quickly here in Zambia.
我遇见的大多数安哥拉人都很欢迎中国人
'Most of the Angolans I'd met seemed to welcome the Chinese.
我听说在赞比亚则有些区别
'I'd heard that it was a bit different here in Zambia.
中国人对赞比亚的社会生活有着深远影响
'Chinese influence extends deep into Zambian society.
已经深入到赞比亚人的日常饮食中
'Right down to the food on Zambian dinner plates.'
这里的人说 要想打败中国人
Now, they say you have to wake up early
就得起早贪黑
in business to beat the Chinese.
卢萨卡市场的情况证明了这一点
And that's certainly true here at Lusaka Market,
因为养鸡的中国农民
because the Chinese chicken farmers
凌晨一点就来到了这里
have been here since one o'clock in the morning.
你好 先生 上午过得好吗
Hello, sir. Hello, sir. How are you this morning?
在市场中 我认识了潘伟志
'In the middle of the market, I met Pan Wei Zhi,
他是几十名中国鸡贩中的一员
one of dozens of Chinese chicken sellers.'
大多数做卖♥♥鸡生意的都是中国人
Most of the chicken traders are Chinese,
但也许将来
but probably in the future,
会有更多的赞比亚人在这里卖♥♥鸡
there will be more Zambians selling chickens here.
到那时 我们就得改行了
When that happens, we'll change trades.
做别的也可以
That'll be fine.
但关键问题是 这些鸡好吃吗
But the crucial thing is, is it a tasty chicken?
这鸡好吃吗
Does this chicken taste good?
很好吃 很嫩
It's delicious. It's quite tender.
用旺火炒10分钟 味道会很鲜美
If you stir-fry it for around ten minutes it'll be really good.
非常嫩
It's very tender.
潘伟志邀请我
Pan Wei Zhi invited me out
去他在卢萨卡城外的鸡场参观
to his chicken farm on the outskirts of Lusaka.
他的大棚里养着数千只鸡
His pens were filled with thousands of chickens.
他和妻子方发蔷不远万里来到非洲
He and his wife, Fang Fa Qiang, travelled 7,000 miles to Africa
因为他们听说这里
because they'd heard it was easier
比在中国做生意容易
to do business here than in China.
我原来是做家具生意的
I was making household furniture
但我没有很大的本钱所以遇到些困难
but I didn't have large amounts of money so I had difficulties.
中国市场的机会也很多
In China there are also lots of opportunities,
但竞争太残酷了
but the competition is fierce.
我喜欢这里 像我这个岁数
I like it here. At my age in China,
在家里做不了什么事了
I can't do any serious work.
不过在这里 我不会感到我老了
But here, I don't feel old.
我仍旧能做些事情
I can still do something.
那么对你们这些出国做生意的人们来说
So what has changed in China that means that people like you
中国的改变到底意味着什么
are now coming out and setting up businesses around the world?
我们比以前更富有更强大
We're richer and more powerful than before,
中国人♥民♥出国都比较放心 有安全感
so Chinese people now feel safe and relaxed to go overseas.
我小时候 海外的中国人
When I was younger, Chinese people abroad
总被欺负 因此出国的人就很少
were bullied by foreigners so people didn't go overseas much,
不过现在不同了
but now that doesn't happen.
在以后
In the future,
毫无疑问越来越多中国人会选择出国
it's certain that more and more Chinese people will go abroad.
这对夫妇雇佣了一些赞比亚人工作
The couple employ a small group of Zambians on the farm,
每人每月的工资是四十镑
who each get paid around 40 pounds a month.
在和一些赞比亚人工作了一段时日后
After working with some Zambians for a while,
我们也互相有所了解
we've started to feel for each other.
工人们也逐渐得更有责任心
They've become more responsible employees.
他们有些坏习惯 比如酗酒
They've got some habits, like drinking alcohol.
实在是太过了
Too much.
我就和他们说不要喝太多
I say to them, don't drink
这对你的生活和健康都不好
it's bad for your liver and your health.
第二天中午他们起来
The morning after, they get up,
连白天黑夜都分不清
they don't know if it's day or night.
我们真的是非常生气
We feel really angry.
你们怎可以在工作前喝那么多酒呢
How can you drink so much when you're coming to work?
不过如果教他们 他们会听你的话
But if we teach them, they do listen to us.
你觉得你的中国老板好相处吗
Do you find it difficult to work for a Chinese boss?
为他工作是比较轻松的
It's easy to work for him,
我们帮助他更好做生意
to help him to do better in his business.
那你们是团队吗 是共同工作的吗
So you feel as if you're part of a team? You're working together?
是的 我们是一个团队
Yeah. We work together in a team.
不知他们在老板面前是否讲了真话
I wasn't sure how free these men felt talking in front of their boss
不过这家鸡场确实可以为赞比亚人
but it was clear that this chicken farm
提供一些工作岗位
was providing some jobs for Zambians.
不过我也听说许多的赞比亚鸡贩
But I'd heard that many Zambian chicken traders
对中国人的竞争感到愤怒
resented the Chinese competition.
你知道为什么赞比亚人这么生气吗