佐杜洛夫斯基的沙丘（2013）

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维克特·E·弗兰克
高架索影业出品
弗兰克·帕维奇作品
主演：亚历山德罗·佐杜洛夫斯基
米歇尔·西多克
克里斯·福斯
H·R·吉格
人生的目标是什么？
What is the goal of the life?
就是给自己创造灵魂
It's to create yourself a soul.
对我而言 电影是一种艺术
For me, movies are an art...
而不是一种工业
more than an industry.
它在寻找人类的灵魂
And it's the search of the human soul...
像绘画 文学和诗歌♥一样
as painting, as literature, as poetry.
电影对我而言就是这样
Movies are that for me.
《沙丘》
我想拍一部电影
I wanted to make a film...
一看的时候就像吃了迷幻药
that would give the people who took LSD at that time...
迷幻得就像磕药一样 但又不是幻觉
the hallucinations that you get with that drug, but without hallucinating.
我不想让大家磕药 而想制♥造♥出磕药的效果
I did not want LSD to be taken, I wanted to fabricate the drug's effects.
这部片会改变大众的观念
This film was going to change the public's perceptions.
我对《沙丘》的野心是很大的
My ambition with Dune was tremendous.
所以我想创造预言
So, what I wanted was to create a prophet.
我想打造预言
I want to create a prophet...
改变全世界所有年轻人的思想
to change the young minds of all the world.
对我而言 《沙丘》就像是神一样
For me, Dune will be the coming of a god.
是艺术和电影之神
Artistical, cinematographical god.
佐杜洛夫斯基《沙丘》
对我而言 不只是制♥作♥特效
For me, it was not to make a picture.
而且是更深层的艺术
It was something deeper.
我想打造出神圣…
I wanted to make something sacred...
自♥由♥和观点新颖的电影
free, with new perspective.
解放思想
Open the mind!
因为当时我感觉自己 像是在坐牢
Because I feel, in that time, myself, inside a prison.
我的自我意识和智力受到了束缚 我想挣开来
My ego, my intellect, I want to open!
然后我就开始为《沙丘》打拼
And I start the fight to make Dune.
《佐杜洛夫斯基的沙丘》
西多克：做这个 你得是狂人
You needed a touch of madness to do it.
不是狂人就不是大♥师♥
You can't have a masterpiece without madness.
比如平克·弗洛伊德 达利
Pink Floyd? Dali...
或者奥森·威尔斯他们
or Orson Welles or others!
《沙丘》可能过于疯狂了
Maybe Dune had too much madness?
《沙丘》制♥作♥人：米歇尔·西多克
但是一部电影一点也不疯狂
But a movie that doesn't have a bit of madness...
就无法征服世界
is not going to conquer the whole world.
当时我带着妻子 去佐杜洛夫斯基在巴黎的家
I was in Paris with my wife at Jodorowsky's house...
《亡命驾驶》导演：尼古拉斯·温丁·雷弗恩
做客
and having dinner...
聊到了深夜
and very late into the evening...
他就问我想不想看《沙丘》
he goes if I wanted to see Dune.
我说：
And I was like:
不知道你有
"I didn't know you made it."
他说他有
And he goes, well, he did.
然后他就拿出大名鼎鼎的《沙丘》原着
And he pulls out, you know, the famous Dune book...
当时全世界只有两本
that apparently only exists... Two copies left in the universe.
然后我就跟他坐了很久
And I then sat with him in front of me...
就是为了看书
for a very long time and just went through the book...
他给我解释他的想法和点子
and he would explain his thoughts and his ideas.
当我听说他为拍摄
And, you know, when I heard about the team...
组建了一支队伍时
that he had assembled to make this movie...
当时在他家已经凌晨两点了
sitting there at night, 2 a.m. at his house...
看到原着 看着那些画面
seeing the book, looking at the images...
听佐杜洛夫斯基告诉我
and hearing Jodorowsky telling me...
每场戏会发生什么事
what was gonna happen in every scene.
所以在某种程度上
So, in a way...
我是唯一一个 看过佐杜洛夫斯基的《沙丘》的人
I'm the only guy who actually ever saw Jodorowsky's Dune.
我是唯一看过…
I am the only spectator...
这部片的观众
that has seen the movie.
告诉你吧
And I'm gonna tell you something.
它棒极了
It's awesome.
斯坦利：《沙丘》是 有史以来最伟大的电影之一
Dune is probably the greatest movie never made.
《硬件》导演：理查德·斯坦利
它一直影响着我们
It continues to influence us...
并将继续影响着一代代人
and will go on influencing generations to come...
虽然它不存在 我们不能租来看 也看不到
Despite the fact that it doesn't exist, we cannot rent it, we cannot watch it.
如果第一部科幻大♥片♥
What if the first film of that nature...
是《沙丘》而不是《星球大战》呢？
had been Dune and not Star Wars?
那么整个…
Would the whole...
票房♥大♥片♥的结构
mega-bucks blockbuster structure...
是不是就完全改变？
have been altered?
我觉得这样说太老套了
I think there's this cliche phrase about movies being ahead of their time.
电影评论家：德文·法拉奇
我觉得《佐杜洛夫斯基的沙丘》 是最超前的电影
I think Jodorowsky's Dune might've been the most ahead-of-its-time movie ever.
我觉得电影史上
I don't think that in the history of cinema...
还没有哪部电影那么超前 以至于达到拍不出来的程度
there was ever a film that was taken that far, only to end up not being made.
结果却成了另一部电影 因为有一部片
To become a different film, since a film was made...
被制♥作♥了出来 但是跟两年半的筹备工作无关
that had nothing to do with those two and a half years of work.
《沙丘》美术师：克里斯·福斯
如果亚历山德罗的沙丘不能开拍*
If Alejandro's Dune could've been made...
2001年就不会有更棒的制♥作♥了*
it would've been bigger than 2001.
它是积累起来的
It was built up...
成为科幻片最伟大的成就
to be the greatest achievement in science fiction...
然后突然消失了
and it just evaporated...
粉碎成上百万片黑色的空间
into a billion small, black pieces of space.
当初我是制♥作♥戏剧的
In the beginning, I was making theater.
我在墨西哥制♥作♥了100部戏剧
In Mexico, I make 100 theater plays.
十年后 我进军前卫电影
In 10 years, I make the avant garde theater.
尤奈斯库 贝克特 斯特林保
lonesco, Beckett, Strindberg.
改编
Adaptation...
改编现代版的莎翁戏剧
Modern adaptations of Shakespeare, I do.
有一天 我会制♥作♥电影的
One day I will make a picture.
《凡多与丽丝》佐杜洛夫斯基作品
在他的电影事业之初
From the beginning of his film career...
他的作品简直可以把人逼疯
what he was doing was driving people crazy.
他第一部电影《凡多与丽丝》
His first film, Fando y Lis...
在阿卡普尔科电影节上首映
it premiered in Acapulco at a film festival...
结果导致天下大乱 大家都疯了
and there was an actual full-scale riot. People went crazy.
它太疯狂了 以至于被墨西哥禁映
It was so nuts that Mexico banned the film.
我踏入影坛的时候
When I came to pictures...
还是个处子
I came like a virgin.
不知道什么技术动作
Without to know technical movement.
不知道镜头和数字 什么都不知道
I didn't know lens, the number. I didn't know.
我们拍《凡多与丽丝》的时候 是偷偷摸摸背着协会拍的
We shoot FandoY Us, hiding of unions.
墨西哥的年轻导演在没有…
In Mexico, a young director cannot make picture...
得到导演协会的批准下 是不能擅自♥拍♥戏的
without the permission of the old director unions.
当时我就问 做艺术工作还要什么批准？
I say, "What I need to take the permission to make art?"
艺术家需要自♥由♥ 我要拍我的戏
Artists need to be free! I do my picture!
后来就变成了一大丑闻
Then was a great scandal later, eh?
因为我打破了所有的行规 真的
Because I broke all the unions, I did it!
我让整个业界解放了思想
I was opening the mind of the industry.
准备体验人生最美妙的经历吧
Be prepared to live the most wonderful experience of your life.
《鼹鼠》神奇
El Topo is miraculous...
《鼹鼠》佐杜洛夫斯基作品
有些暴♥力♥*
It's violent.
《鼹鼠》不仅是奇观
El Topo is more than spectacle.
而且是一生受用的体验
It is an experience for all of your life.
要求观影
杰作《鼹鼠》引发狂潮
神奇 《鼹鼠》真乃天下第一 让人难以作出公正的评价
非凡 杰出 难忘 疯癫 神秘 必看
里程碑 《鼹鼠》是电影艺术的里程碑 每看一次就会有新的惊喜 百看不厌
《鼹鼠》是正宗的午夜电影鼻祖 正宗的邪典电影
El Topo really was the original midnight movie, the original cult film...
第一部专门在午夜放映的电影
the first movie that played exclusively at midnight screenings...
吸引了一批忠实的邪典观众
and drew a loyal cult audience.
我觉得《鼹鼠》神奇之处在于
What I find extraordinary about El Topo...
是佐杜洛夫斯基第一部大♥片♥ 他负责制♥作♥
is it's his first major movie, and Jodorowsky's producing...
写作和导演 还主演
writing and directing and playing the lead...
他还给自己写了一句 经久不衰的台词 "我就是上帝"
and he gives himself that immortal line, "I am God."
西多克：我是在纽约的 地下电影院看到它的
I was exposed to it in the underground cinema in New York.
制♥作♥人：米歇尔·西多克
那以后 我们在法国大胆的尝试发布*
And after that, we had the courage to attempt to distribute it in France...
《鼹鼠》